Flair UPDATED PRO 3 (Black) - All manual lever espresso maker with a stainless steel brew head, pressure gauge, and a shot mirror vs Turin DF64 Gen 2 Single Dose Coffee Grinder - 64mm Flat Burrs, Black or White, Stainless Steel or DLC Burrs, Low Retention, Stepless Adjustment (Stainless Steel Burrs, Black)
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#5 in Espresso Machines
Cafelat
Flair UPDATED PRO 3 (Black) - All manual lever espresso maker with a stainless steel brew head, pressure gauge, and a shot mirror
$290.00
100/100Excellent
100% positive0% neutral0% negative
Pros
- +Durable
- +Simple workflow
- +Minimal parts
Cons
- -20lbs total weight
“I travel with a cafelat robot. Everything I need with it in a pelican style case. There isn't really anything to break, and all I need is hot water.”
#9 in Espresso Machines
DF
Turin DF64 Gen 2 Single Dose Coffee Grinder - 64mm Flat Burrs, Black or White, Stainless Steel or DLC Burrs, Low Retention, Stepless Adjustment (Stainless Steel Burrs, Black)
$399.00
100/100Excellent
100% positive0% neutral0% negative
Pros
- +Very low retention (0g, occasionally 0.1g)
- +Bellows effective
- +Grinds fast
- +Recommended setup
Cons
- -Loud
- -Mixed reviews about static issues
“Overall the retention is very low, 0g retention, occasionally 0.1g. Pushing down on the bellows seems very effective. The only drawback is that it's loud, but it grinds so fast, it's not a drawback fo”